Episode Transcript
[00:00:21] Speaker A: Hey, welcome to Tailgate Beers. Hey. It's day two tailgating tall boys here in Clinton, Iowa, and Austin and I are here as usual. And today we're sitting down having some conversation with some guys from old 60. We got Jacob and Dwight. Gentlemen, thanks for joining us.
[00:00:36] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Excited. Excited to be here. We. This is our second time in Iowa, so the last time treated as well. So we. We decided to come on back. We've never done tailgates and tall boys before, so pretty pumped. We've heard the crowd can get a little bit rowdy and that's what we're all about. So.
[00:00:53] Speaker A: Absolutely. Where we at in Iowa before we.
[00:00:55] Speaker B: Did West Des Moines. Okay. Yeah. Val Air Ballroom down there.
[00:00:58] Speaker A: Awesome. Awesome. So what are you looking forward to today? I mean, being up on the stage and seeing all the people out there?
[00:01:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, it just seems like good folks out here. We went out to the campground just a little bit ago and hung out with some people. Shotgun a beer and I don't know, we'll see. They. They seemed excited for us and we're excited to play some. Play some music for these people.
[00:01:21] Speaker A: You know, I've talked to a lot of people I know Austin has too, about, you know, upcoming for tailgate and Tall Boys. We've been talking about the lineup for months now, it seems, and it's finally come come upon us. But you guys, I keep continue to hear that that generation of folks that are here can't wait for old 60. Can't wait to hear old and see old 60. So good for you guys. I mean, you're doing something right, obviously on that, but. But looking forward to it.
[00:01:43] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Appreciate it.
It's been crazy. We just been writing music. Me and Dwight just wrote one that's out now and just writing stuff that's important to us and coming out and playing it and giving it all we got and it seems to be something that people enjoy, so we're very thankful for that. And yeah, we've been getting good crowds, good energy, and hopefully they bring it tonight. We're going to bring it. That's for sure.
[00:02:12] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:02:12] Speaker C: So you were with me when I believe we met for the first time at Losers with Raise Rowdy and all that stuff. So you were telling me like, you're still traveling probably, you know, once a week or, you know, weeks at a time up to Nashville. You're not currently living there?
[00:02:30] Speaker B: I do. I live in Nashville now.
[00:02:31] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:02:32] Speaker B: At the time I didn't. Yeah. So I'm in Nashville. None of the other guys Are. So they all come down to Nashville. It's about three hours from home.
[00:02:41] Speaker C: That's where. Where's home again?
[00:02:42] Speaker B: Hville, Kentucky, or Owensboro. The Owensboro area. And then this man's from north carolina, so he's got a bit more of a haul to get to us.
[00:02:51] Speaker C: Yeah, but everybody else is from the same hometown, or you guys all.
[00:02:54] Speaker B: Yeah, we're all from within 30 minutes of each other. Yeah.
[00:02:59] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:02:59] Speaker B: Yeah, except. Except Dwight. Like, six hours.
[00:03:02] Speaker D: Yeah, we played rail bird last weekend, and so we hung out in Owensboro. That was fun to go hang with the boys and.
And see the hometown.
[00:03:11] Speaker A: Surfside's got real vodka, real iced tea, and real lemonade. You know what's not real? That excuse you gave to skip the tailgate, grab a surfside and redeem yourself, champ.
Now back to your regular programming.
[00:03:25] Speaker C: So how did this come about? Old 60, tell me, like, what was this?
Are you the founding member who's like.
[00:03:32] Speaker B: Yeah. So it was.
It was just a few buddies, and we started getting together and playing music, and I ended up writing a few songs, and we were like, let's go record these. And we went and recorded them, not expecting nothing of it. You know, I was working at an aluminum mill at the time and sweating my ass off 12 hours a day, four to seven days a week, and it ended up, you know, catching wind, and people enjoyed it, and here we are, you know.
[00:04:03] Speaker A: So you're the lead singer.
[00:04:04] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:04:05] Speaker A: And I think you're the.
Apologize if I get it wrong, but. Steel guitar player. Yeah.
[00:04:11] Speaker D: Utility played.
[00:04:12] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:12] Speaker D: Different instruments. Whatever needs to happen.
[00:04:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Anything with strings, Dwight plays it.
[00:04:17] Speaker A: All right, so you guys do writing together and. And stuff like that, or.
[00:04:20] Speaker B: Yeah, we've. The most recent song, like I said, it's called nancy avenue. We. We wrote that one together, and we've written together a couple other times.
But, yeah, Dwight's a great writer, great player, and he's been in a lot.
[00:04:34] Speaker D: Of time in the studio.
[00:04:35] Speaker B: Yeah, we've been recording a lot of new music recently.
Dwight's been taking them to church on these new songs, so I'm excited for everybody to hear them.
[00:04:45] Speaker C: It sounds like you guys writing. Are you starting now with your rise as far as public knowledge of who you are? Are you starting to get songs from people where you're looking at them, or is it all internal?
[00:04:57] Speaker B: I. I will never write a song that I was not a writer on Or I will never cut a song that I was not a writer on.
[00:05:04] Speaker A: Would you write a song for somebody else?
[00:05:07] Speaker B: Yeah, I mean, maybe I don't know, I've never done it before, but I'm not opposed to it, you know, because I've written with other people and like just writers and done the co writing thing and they've done it for us. So I wouldn't be opposed to writing on something for somebody else if it was something that I was proud of.
[00:05:29] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm always intrigued because coming into this, just being a music lover, but then as you start to listen to people writing and how this works, I can't go into a song like when Morgan Wallen's album just dropped or you guys dropped one. I go straight to credits on every song. And it's interesting to start seeing names pop up. And yeah, you see a lot of.
[00:05:53] Speaker B: Like, the same guys on those, those big records. And I think personally, I.
When I write music, it's very, very personal to me, you know, and I write stuff that I feel or when I'm writing that song in that moment, I feel it and. And that's how I write music. And I think that, yeah, a lot of people. A lot of people were writing hits, you know, and that's. That's not. Whatever.
I never set out to write a hit. I just sit down and it's like a therapy session. That's what I do.
[00:06:27] Speaker D: I think that's the magic of it, though, you know, if you go to our shows, like, most of the people are singing about every word that you know of each song. And I feel like a lot of people are there because they found us, not because, like, they think they should be there because we're somebody, you know, And I think it's a lot of Jacob's approach of trying to be just genuine and doing what's true to him and not what the industry does, you know. Not that there's anything wrong with that. There's nothing wrong with that.
[00:06:57] Speaker A: But no.
[00:06:58] Speaker C: And you're starting to see different individuals where there's music where I'm like, you know what? I don't. It's not really my cup of tea. But, you know, even like Jelly Roll, for instance, I can't say that I'm gonna go crank a whole Jelly Roll album. Like, man, this is the best album I've ever listened to in my entire life.
But he's done his own thing, created his own genre in a way, and people really have been drawn to that, you guys. And I think for me in Bloomington, I was most excited to see you. You know, Wayne and I both were pumped to see old 60 and then treaty Oak In Bloomington. Just.
I love them, that genre of music.
[00:07:36] Speaker B: We've played a lot with Treaty Oak. Now. Last year we did one show with them. We opened for them in Houston, and it was before we'd ever headlined a show. And it was the first show that, like, the crowd, we could hear the crowd singing.
And ever since then, I've always been a big Treaty Oak fan since they came out. And just being able to get to know those guys a little better and play some festivals with them, it's been super cool. And they're so supportive of what we're doing and we're the same to them. And yeah, I mean, like Treaty Oak.
[00:08:11] Speaker C: And they're just like. They're normal guys, like all of us. Like, I don't know, you guys seem pretty down to earth normal guys. Again, coming from a steel, you know, aluminum mill. And I don't know what your career was prior to, but just guys, guys, you know, normal people that, again, are up there writing what's important to them. Not really worried about trying to write some hit that, you know, is gonna, you know, get sucked in under the radio or anything else.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel like music in general is moving more towards the. The genuine thing. You know, people are craving authenticity and genres are kind of going away. Like, I don't know that we make country music, but we're playing country festivals and, and doing these country concerts. And I love country music, so I will never complain about that. But I think streaming and like, just the availability of music has caused people to crave that authenticity and the realness and the writing and the songs and the rawness.
And people just want something that makes them feel something now, you know?
[00:09:13] Speaker C: Well, speaking of authenticity, are you an authentic Cubs fan?
[00:09:17] Speaker B: I am a huge Cubs fan.
[00:09:19] Speaker A: Yes. Yes.
[00:09:20] Speaker C: Crazy how, how you're all the way down there. I mean, you got all these other teams to pick from.
[00:09:24] Speaker B: Yeah, my dad, he.
Which I'm from Hallsville, Kentucky, and there's no professional sports teams in Kentucky, so it's. It's mainly like college. Like, everybody loves. It's UK or U of L, and if you love one, you hate the other. But yeah, my dad grew up with wgn and he was watching the Cubs every week and he just kind of passed that down to me. So I'm die hard Cubs fan. I have been my whole life, so.
[00:09:50] Speaker A: I am a die hard Cubs fan. My friend here, Austin, he's a Cardinals fan, which we forgive him for. But I also have to say, too, wgn, you mentioned it, the Bozo show, you Ever seen the Bozo show? Right, on wgn?
[00:10:02] Speaker B: I haven't, no.
[00:10:03] Speaker A: You haven't? Probably, probably a little young for that. I'm giving my age here. But I was on the Bozo show back in the day, you know, like Bozo show is a clown show, you know, and you like have a little grand prize. Anyway, long story short, yeah, I was on the, on the Bozo show on WGN years ago. Oh yeah, years ago. But die hard Cubs fan as well.
[00:10:21] Speaker B: Oh yeah, they're tearing it up this year.
[00:10:22] Speaker A: This is our year.
[00:10:23] Speaker B: Go Cubs. Go Cubs.
[00:10:24] Speaker C: And as a baseball fanatic, I mean, I just love good baseball. I mean, I love watching that. I mean, I woke my boy, who's 11 years old, out of bed to come watch the Dodgers win the World Series for him to see. And again, I can't say that I'm a massive fan, but what that series was like and to see that and then for him to be sitting next to me with the walk off home run, that's beautiful.
[00:10:46] Speaker B: This guy's a Yankees fan. So touchy subject for him.
[00:10:50] Speaker D: But I should have went to bed earlier.
[00:10:53] Speaker C: Even for my boy, it was a, it was a lesson of. I said, hey, so here's this guy who, you know, I don't care who you root for, root for. Freddy Freeman is, I mean, just a great human and him coming out there in a huge slump. And I said, guess what? No one will remember how bad he was hitting. Oh, no, they're only going to remember that he hit the grand slam, you know, and we all go out. If you were a baseball player, like, hey, it's the bottom of the 10th, bases loaded, grand slam. And then that's the flip side. I said, hey, here's Judge has had the best season of his life defensively, drops one ball and that's all anybody will remember. I said, just remember that, bud, when you're out there playing that you could have the worst time, the worst season, but one hit, no one will care.
[00:11:43] Speaker A: Yeah, but so you kind of mentioned it before and I want to kind of dwell on it for a second from a fan perspective. So looking out in a crowd and you talked about the first time that you really noticed or saw that the crowd was singing your lyrics, singing your music. I mean, what's that feeling like? I can't imagine it. Can't imagine it. But what's that feeling?
[00:12:04] Speaker B: It's.
I don't know. You know, it's. You can't describe it. We, we just played Rail Bird in Lexington and you know, we don't. We don't get to play in Kentucky a whole lot. We. We try to play in Kentucky as much as we can.
But that was the. The most special show because as soon as we walked on stage, they were into it and, like, singing, every word, screaming.