Episode 40 - Vincent Mason

[00:00:00] Speaker A: This was for the home team. [00:00:14] Speaker B: Hey, welcome to Tailgate. Beers. Ryan and Austin here as usual. Hey, we have a special guest with us. Tonight's plane at Cruzens West Peoria, Vincent Mason. Vincent, thanks for joining us. [00:00:25] Speaker C: Yeah, thanks for having me. Excited to be here. We were a little too good, a little too fast. You were quicker to catch that than me. Problem never was that we wouldn't last. You were scared. We were into. Nothing went wrong. It was all too high. We were staring there forever. But forever came at the wrong. [00:00:58] Speaker B: So not your first time at Cruisins? [00:01:00] Speaker C: No, we played. I think about. It's like gotta be close to almost a year ago. Like exactly. With Gavin. Kevin. Oh yeah. [00:01:08] Speaker B: That was the night. [00:01:10] Speaker A: The night. [00:01:12] Speaker B: I remember that night. I remember that night. And I remember some of the. The aftermath of that night too. I think Austin sent me a video of what this room looked like after. [00:01:21] Speaker A: I think they gutted the cabinets. They took everything out of the fridge and Gavin just comes walking out with the leg lamp in one hand and all the snacks in another and goes, see you later, guys. Thanks for having us. And off he went, man. [00:01:36] Speaker C: Yeah, the leg lamp, it's on stage every night. It's part of their. Their stage set. So it lives on for sure. [00:01:42] Speaker B: And then you're also going to be at Tailgate and Tall Boys this year too. I am hoping to get into that. [00:01:47] Speaker C: Yeah. Really excited. [00:01:49] Speaker A: On the same night as Gavin. [00:01:50] Speaker C: Same night as Gavin and company. [00:01:52] Speaker B: Yes. 60 Hudson, Thursday night, Bloomington, June 12th. Up top of my head, I think is the. Is the date. Yeah, man, that. That whole weekend's gonna be. [00:02:01] Speaker A: I know and I believe you're crazy. Headlining the side stage. [00:02:06] Speaker B: Surfside's got real vodka, real iced tea and real lemonade. You know what's not real? That excuse you gave to skip the tailgate, grab a surfside and redeem yourself, champ. Now back to your regular programming. [00:02:19] Speaker A: Correct. [00:02:20] Speaker C: Nice. I think so. I don't know. [00:02:23] Speaker A: I believe. Yeah, I believe. I believe that's what it is. So then that's going to be. So what's nuts is with that spot you will go on right before Gavin. [00:02:31] Speaker C: Oh yeah. [00:02:31] Speaker A: So it's going to go you at. I'm going to make like an 8pm time frame. So all GA's there. All the GA is out there in that area. And it'll go you, then Gavin, then CO Wetzel. [00:02:45] Speaker C: That's pretty dope. [00:02:46] Speaker A: That is pretty dope. [00:02:46] Speaker C: That's pretty dope. It'll be like old times. We played like 40 shows with Gavin. So like we that back to back right there is awesome. Then throw co on there. Yeah, it's gonna be cool. [00:02:55] Speaker B: So backing up a little bit. I'd love to hear some of the story about you being out on tour with Gavin and how that relationship started and go from there. [00:03:04] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, it was close to a year ago. I think that was, what, 24. So I guess 23. 20. 23. September. I just got my first offer to ever open for Ashley Cook Acoustics, so I went and did, like, 20 shows with her all through that fall. 23. But even before we did that, Gavin hit me on Instagram, and I hadn't really heard his stuff yet, and he hit me on Instagram. He was like, hey, man, I'm playing in at Zydeco. And he's. I really like that little too good song. I just put it out. It's like kind of a slow acoustic song. I was like, okay. And then I was like, yeah, man, we'll do it. Like, we were saying yes to everything at that time, you know, like, it didn't matter, of course. And so I was like, yeah, man, I'll do it. And he was like, great. And so we drove down there, and we're listening to his stuff on the way down just to kind of see what we're getting into. And we hear, like, deep in, you know, and then we're like, this guy, like, little too good, you know? Like, it's just kind of this sad, like, slow song. And we show up, and I played my acoustic set, and it was like, I don't think they really cared too much. I hadn't even written hell's a Dance 4 yet. It was like four months before that even happened. So kind of got through my set, tried my best. I didn't feel like it went super well. And then Gavin came out, and the place was just like. Like, the foundation in the building was just, like, shaking. We were like, holy. We were like. I knew right then, like, after he played, he got through a set, and then he played Deep End, and I was like, it was a 300 cat room, I think is IDY co. But I was like. I just knew by the energy of the room. I was like, there's something to this. Like, it's gonna be a thing, you know? And then we went off and did the Ashley Cook tour, and that was cool. And then, like a year ago, around this time, we went and did two more weekends with him, so six shows. And we were like. We brought the band that time and everything, and we showed up I remember we did Louisville, Kentucky. It was like a bar Gay. It was like 500 cap. And then we showed up the next night. We didn't really check the. The caps for the rest of the night, so we played a 500 cap room. We weren't even on ears yet. And we played that one. We pull up to the next venue, we're like, it's gonna be the same thing. And then it's like. It's like megacorp Pavilion. It's like a music hall, kind of like indoor amphitheater. Like, we're like, gav, like, this place is pretty big. Like, how many tickets did y' all sell? And he's like, we did 2200 tickets. He's like, first time in Kentucky. He's like, we gonna turn it on its fucking head. And we were like, oh. And we didn't have ears or anything, so we played like a 2200 cat room, like, big show on wedges, full band, you know, and, like, you could hear that everything in Hell's the Dance Floor just come out. And that was kind of one of our first shows that we had played. So got through our set, and then I played Hell is a Dance Floor, and I didn't have ears, so I could hear the whole room kind of singing it back. And that was a moment for us where we were like, oh, like, people actually know this song. And then Gavin was kind of doing this, and we were playing that venue, and I think that's when we kind of knew we. We had something with that. So then we got the fall offer, because they played about 40 shows that fall. And he was like, we'd love for y' all to come back out with us. And that's kind of how that got started. And then Gav's gotten to be become one of my really good friends. I think he's probably my best friend that's an artist. I think it's kind of hard to be friends with artists. It's a little bit of a weird thing because everyone's off doing their own thing, and it's kind of hard to, like. You love to see people and, like, kind of say, what's up? And you got people you're fans of and people that you like and you're rooting for. But it's kind of hard to have, like, a real friendship, I guess, because everyone's off doing their own thing. And it's so, like. It's like, all encompassing, you know, you have to worry about so much stuff. It's hard to kind of but keep up with everyone else. [00:06:31] Speaker A: But that's how it's kind of working now as you watch where. I mean, different artists coming up and they're bringing these friends. They're bringing their. They're pretty much their buddies. I mean, you look at the Morgan Wallen, Ernest Hardy, that combination. You look over here, the different groups that are bringing. They've come up at the same time, for sure. And it's like, hey, ride along with us. Let's. Let's do this. [00:06:49] Speaker C: And for sure. [00:06:50] Speaker A: Pretty cool to see when that does happen. [00:06:52] Speaker C: Yeah. And it was just fun. It's kind of unlikely, like. Like I said, like, I couldn't believe that Gavin liked Little Too Good. But then he's got songs, you know, like A Cigarette and like, those slower songs, like, you know, as much as the party songs. And I guess it's kind of unlikely on paper, but it kind of worked out perfect. People don't realize, like, he's just, like, such a chill, good dude. [00:07:11] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:07:11] Speaker C: I mean, like, he'll steal the leg lamp and turn the green room upside down, but, like, at the end of the day when it. When it matters most, like, he's. He's a really good dude. Where it counts. [00:07:19] Speaker A: The amount of beer that got consumed in that night at the bar is absolutely insane. [00:07:25] Speaker C: Yeah. There's always some kind of record getting set. I felt like on that tour, like, Stephenville, they set the record for most arrests during a show. So you're just, like, looking out there while you're playing and you're just seeing people fighting, like. Like different pockets of the room, like, at the same time. [00:07:39] Speaker A: What. We can get off of Gavin at some point. But I do have to ask, what is your take on. Why do you think it. Why do you think it works for him in the sense of, like, is it the bad boy vibe? Is it just because it's a whole different fanboy, Works completely different. [00:07:57] Speaker C: I think it's just. I think one. He's just, like, so authentic, I think, and people really connect with that. And, you know, I'm trying to be. It's like, you come up on that tour and it's like, you think he does it so well, and it's like, oh, should I do it more like Gavin? It's like, no, that wouldn't be authentic to me. But I think he's figured it out for himself. Like, not saying every artist should go out there and act like Gavin, but there is something to be said about the authenticity. I think. I feel like every time I don't See Gavin for a while. Like, I feel like I've been talking to him because, like, the way he is on TikTok is the same. So it's like, I see his tick tocks, and it feels like you really get to know him, you go talk to him, and it's kind of the same guy. You know, there's not, like a separation, so I think people really can connect with that. And he's also just entertaining. [00:08:42] Speaker A: You know, he's definitely the rowdiest person on stage that I can think of right now in this time. [00:08:46] Speaker C: He's just entertaining. It doesn't matter what you're doing. Like, he had us all over for dinner the other day, and it's like he just opens his mouth to start talking. Like you're gonna listen to what he has to say, and it's. It's funny. And, you know, I think he's just himself. Like, I think he was just kind of born for it, you know, he's just captivating. [00:09:01] Speaker B: So that's interesting that. Just to. To hear, you know, you go over to. To Gavin's house and have dinner and. And invited probably a crew over. I mean. [00:09:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:10] Speaker B: What. What is. What is that? I mean, from a fan perspective, we want to know. I mean, what does that look like? You kind of show up. [00:09:15] Speaker C: What goes on? [00:09:15] Speaker B: Everybody. Yeah, everybody brings it. [00:09:17] Speaker C: Kind of invited his whole. His whole crew, like, his band and crew and like, our band and crew, and we all just hit it off like, across the board. Like, everybody on our crew and band and every, like, across the board. It was like 30 of us almost, that were just, like, we got along right away and we had that whole fall together, so I think, become kind of a little bit of a family vibe. Yeah, we try to. You know, that was the first time we've done it, but we want to try to keep it alive, you know, like, at least meet up when everyone's in town, you know, once every couple months. And. [00:09:44] Speaker B: Because I can't imagine. I mean, you guys as. As a. Two group crews get together. I mean, you sit down and play cards. I mean. [00:09:51] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, it's a lot of, like, everyone kind of like, we have so many friends that are, like, songwriters, too, and, like, a lot of people in Gavin's band write songs, and everyone's just kind of like, playing stuff that they wrote and, like, kind of like playing demos from that week or, like, pick up the guitar. And Gavin likes to write all the time, too, so, like, it doesn't matter what you're doing, like, you might just be eating dinner. And then he's like, let's just, like, write something real quick, you know? Yeah, it never turns it off. So. And then our buddy Jack Rowton, who was tour managing Gavin when we first met him, he signed a publishing deal with Warner Chapel, but he's on some of get, like sober and run your mouth and some of Gavin's bigger stuff, but we got to be really good friends with him too. So everyone's kind of just down to. To write or, you know, jam a little bit and play and drink or whatever. Just hang out. [00:10:33] Speaker B: Let's get into. To, like, your writing. I mean, what is some of your motivations or settings that you like to be in? When do you do your best writing? [00:10:41] Speaker C: Yeah, it's fun. When I first moved to town, I went to Ole Miss for about a year. And I've been playing guitar for probably two years. Like, singing and playing in my room at home. Like, sophomore year school, I got my guitar, and then senior year, I really started trying to. I wouldn't show anybody, but I would film videos and, like, see if it sounded good. Like, I would listen back. And I was, like, trying to get better at it. And it was kind of funny because, like, I never, like, thought I should post this or share this or people should hear this. It was just something that I like to do. Like, I liked to try to get a video that sounded good, you know, and I just loved it. And I've always loved music, so I didn't think it would be something that I would go and do. But I went to Ole Miss for about a year, and I've just found myself, like, in the dorms, like, and I was keep trying to write and never really felt like I had anything to say. I always felt like I wanted to write a song. And I was just like, I don't think anyone's gonna care about what I have to say, or, like, I don't know how I'm gonna do it. But at that time, I loved, like, John Mayer and, like, country radio kind of hits were, like, my idea of country music. Like John Pardee, Thomas Rhett, like American Kids, Kenny Chesney, which we do in the set every night. And, like, I always thought it was like, oh, country songs are, like, feel good kind of hit songs. And I went to Ole Miss. I met a. Met a buddy named Will Davidson from West Monroe, Louisiana, and he put me onto, like, Parker McCollum and Co Wetzel and, like, Old Steel Driver songs and Flatland and like, Early Zach Bryan and Like, that whole other world of, like, country music where I was like, okay, this is all the stuff that I like that John Mayer kind of sings about, like, the singer songwriter thing. But it's all the sonics I like of country music. So I heard like, a Hell of a Year and I Can't Breathe by Parker McColman. Like, it, like, something clicked for me. I was like, I think I could do something like that. Like, I was like, I could write something in that lane, and I think people would. I think people would buy it, you know, like, it feels like me a little bit. So that was kind of like a light bulb for me. And then I started writing songs. Christmas break at Ole Miss, and then Covid happened, sent us home, and I moved to Nashville quickly after that, because right at the same time, I found Parker & Co. And all that kind of stuff, like that Red Dirt scene, which I loved. I found, like, Morgan, Ernest and Hardy and that, like, Nashville kind of. I've always loved hit songs, you know, So I always had a foot in both camps. And I still like, like to listen to everything. Like, if it's a good country song, I'll listen to it, you know, so. [00:12:55] Speaker A: So back up. So you're born and raised where? [00:12:57] Speaker C: Roswell, Georgia. [00:12:59] Speaker A: Okay, so you're in Georgia and it took you till 2020 to land on all these people. [00:13:03] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:03] Speaker A: What were you listening to before that? It was like just John Mayer back over and over and over. [00:13:08] Speaker C: My mom loved. Like, my parents didn't really listen to country music, but, like, I grew up in Georgia, so I always knew, like, you know, Jason Aldean, Luke Bryan, like, Cole Swindell, like that, like, country radio scene. So I always knew and I always liked it. And then John Party, Thomas Rhett, Sam Hunt, all that came out, like, when I was a freshman in high school, and I loved that, too. And I was like. I was like, oh, country music. Like Florida Georgia Line. I was like, these hit songs that I, you know, their feel good songs. [00:13:33] Speaker A: So what were you listening to all that? [00:13:35] Speaker C: I was listening to the Beatles a lot. Okay. Like, rap music, too. Like, I listen to everything. [00:13:43] Speaker A: I mean, because for me, I guess it sounds weird when I think of Georgia and I think, how are you not listening? You know, listening to country? Everybody thinks you're down south, you know, it's like country radio all the time. [00:13:53] Speaker C: I think I grew up, like, not too far outside of Atlanta, and it was just like, so many different types of people. Like, yeah, there was so many different things. Like, people love rap music and country music, and there was kind of like a fork in the road. When I was in, like, eighth or ninth grade, like, people started listening to country. People started listening to rap music. [00:14:10] Speaker A: You went down the rap scene for a while. [00:14:11] Speaker C: I was in the rap scene, like, 8th, 9th grade and like middle school. It was cool to listen to rap music and like, all the girls listen to country music and, like, it wasn't cool. And then I got to be in high school and I was like, I really started to. To dig it. And I think rap music kind of started turning into, like, a lot more trap heavy stuff, like mumble rap. And that's when I kind of like, was like, oh, let me check out country music. [00:14:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:14:31] Speaker B: But when I was just looking at my phone. So Austin and I, we share a lot of music and sin artists and stuff like that. He sent me your name. And I was trying to look to see real quick. I wasn't trying to be rude. I was trying to look to see. I think it was at least a year, if not two years ago when. When you sent me Vincent Mason and you were on repeat on. On, you know, my truck. [00:14:54] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:14:55] Speaker B: You know, stereo for. For quite some time. Oh, yeah. [00:14:59] Speaker A: I always go back to. I always go back to in. So January of 23 is when I sent. When I sent Wayne your. Your. So Wayne runs cruising all this stuff. Yeah, so I sent. I always look up that. Yeah, it was January of 23 when I sent him yours. But the first song. Actually, I'm shocked. The first song I sent was Me in Tennessee. [00:15:25] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:15:25] Speaker B: When you sent me to. [00:15:26] Speaker A: And then A little. A Little Too Good was the next. I, I. That still is my favorite one by you. [00:15:31] Speaker C: A little too good. [00:15:32] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. It's just. It's because I love how it. I love how it progresses through. And it starts off very slow. And you say that's a slow song, but that thing picks up midway through. [00:15:42] Speaker C: It picks up, which is cool with the band. Like, we do it kind of coming out of an acoustic set. It's like the first half is acoustic. So we keep it going and the band kind of walks back on stage. And then it hits like, halfway through. And I think that one's cool. That was the first song I wrote when I moved to Nashville. It was like that first semester where I would have been at Ole Miss and I was in Nashville just alone. I didn't know anybody not going to school or nothing, or I went to Lipscomb Music School. So that was kind of the deal. I cut with my parents I told them. And my dad's, like, the most honest, like, straight shooter of all time. And I was playing him. I was like, it was Summer of COVID and I was like, I've been writing these songs. And I was like, I think I kind of want to go do this. And he was, all right, well, play me a few of them. He's like, they're bad. I'm gonna let you know. And I played them, and he was like, those are. Those are pretty good. [00:16:26] Speaker A: And you're still going to school. It's not like you're just gonna go. [00:16:29] Speaker C: So my mom was like. And then I kind of backtracked. I was like, supposed to live at. I was an ATO at Ole Miss, and I was, like, supposed to live in the house. And I was like, maybe after, like, this year, we can figure it out. Like, it'll be a little smoother of a transition to go to Nashville. My mom was kind of like, no. She was like, I can tell you really want to do it, so you need to go now. And she was like, but you're gonna stay in school. So I went to Lipscomb Music School. They had a brand new music program, and we kind of hit them up. And it wasn't until, like, July or August that I told them that. So it was like, really, like, three weeks until we were supposed to get to school. But they were. They were good about it. So I ended up there. I didn't know anybody or anything in Nashville at all. And I just would sit in my living room and, like, try to write songs. And I had just started writing songs. Looking back now, like, that was the best thing, I think. Like, I kind of want a situation like that again. Like, I feel like I've gotten used to writing songs and gotten used to where I'm at. Like, it would be kind of nice to go somewhere. Maybe I'll take, like, a solo trip or something. [00:17:25] Speaker A: Like, somewhere. Just. [00:17:26] Speaker C: Yeah, maybe go somewhere by myself. And, like, it's just like, there's something about sitting in a house by yourself in a city where you don't know anybody. It just makes you want to. [00:17:34] Speaker A: That's why I love those. I always love the stories of the retreats, of whether it was like, Nirvana, when Nirvana went off and. And they had a house in the middle of nowhere. You talked about John Mayer, you know, and they. He goes to Montana and gets away from all of it. [00:17:47] Speaker C: And, yeah, there's something about, like, a new setting that just makes you kind of, like, realize stuff. I think you can get Used to things and kind of like start not saying stuff that you're thinking about, you. [00:17:58] Speaker A: Know, or like, also exercises different things in your mind, because when you're at home, you think the same things. You have habits, things that you do. [00:18:04] Speaker C: All makes things make sense, I guess, a little bit like a change of scenery. Maybe I'll do that. I don't know. [00:18:08] Speaker A: Yeah, you should. So. [00:18:09] Speaker B: So you get onto Nashville and. And it's right around covet time frame. You're doing a lot of writing stuff by yourself. I mean, what's the next step after that? [00:18:18] Speaker C: Yeah. So went to Lipscomb for a little bit. Met a couple friends that actually got married, which was wild. It was my two best friends at Lipscomb, Autumn and Palmer. All their names shout out to them. I don't think they'll listen, but. Oh, they might. Yeah, they might listen. [00:18:34] Speaker B: He must have looked at our numbers. [00:18:35] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I'll make him listen now, but no. So I met her. We had to do, like, a band. Like, all the kids that were majoring in music had to be in a band. So I met Autumn that way. And then I met Palmer later, and he was, like, a producer and a songwriter and still is, like, super talented. And those are my two best friends. And then we all dropped out at the same time. So I started living with Palmer, and then Autumn was over there all the time, and I was writing songs, and they were the ones that were like, you kind of have to. You're gonna have to post something someday, like, if you want people to hear it. And I was in the mindset if I wanted to be a songwriter. Like, once I found out what a publishing deal was, I was listening to Earnest Podcast, like, Just Being Ernest. [00:19:11] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:19:11] Speaker C: He's talking about, like, publishing deals and how Nashville worked. And that was my idea. I was like, that seemed way more, like, doable than being an artist. Like, I just never thought that was going to be something I did. Never thought I could be, like, the guy or, like, the front man. So I was like, I'm gonna move to town and write. And they were like, even if you just want to write, like, you gotta post this stuff so somebody might see it. Like, a publisher might see it or whatever. So I started posting that kind of stuff. I posted covers at first, and then, like, I seeded in a couple songs that I wrote, and, like, Little Too Good was kind of the first one that actually caught on. And a song I wrote called Everybody Loves her caught on, and people were asking me to drop it, and I was like, I Guess I'll just put them out. And that's kind of how that happened. [00:19:49] Speaker B: But. [00:19:49] Speaker C: So it wasn't until 2022 that I started posting Tick Tocks. I moved to Nashville in 2020. So I was right. I had a handful of songs that I started posting and I think people started like kind of. We built like a small fan base, I think, kind of right from the jump. Like people. There was a few people that got it like they were just like, were tapped into everything I was writing and I was putting out songs. And I met a guy named Sean Lewell. He was working at Interscope at the time and he had just left and started his own label. And then they ended up starting a JV with Interscope. So when it got time to sign our deal, we're with Interscope now and Universal Nashville. So their label partnered back with Interscope and that kind of turned into that. But yeah, so I put out songs with them for about a year on like a distribution style deal and then met my manager and then we put out How's It Dance for about a year after that. And that's when everything. That's when all the labels called. Yeah, that kind of brought us to here. Yeah, that was last year that we did that. [00:20:45] Speaker A: So I mean, people go nuts. I mean, over your. I mean the names that I always heard we'd put up stuff on Bloomington's Tailgate and Tall Boys, social media and it was who do you want to come? And it was before we dropped your name because there was all these side stage artists that hadn't been released yet. But we were waiting because there was all this confirmation of do we release one name at a time? Do we release all of them? A lot of behind the scenes, but it was always your name, Ty Myers. It was just people blowing up. Wayne had a thing on the board at one point of everybody he put. Because he has a crazy Snapchat and it was constantly just people like yourself that people were going nuts over. [00:21:24] Speaker C: Hell yeah. So that's good. That's good. [00:21:27] Speaker A: You have a solid following. [00:21:28] Speaker C: Sometimes it feels like you're just throwing songs out, you know what I mean? Into the void. And that's nice to know that people. [00:21:34] Speaker A: Like and it's the world we live in. And you had mentioned Earnest. You'd mentioned Earnest earlier. And I loved his podcast. I know he's super busy, but I wish they would go back to doing some of those because some of those are freaking hilarious. I love a lot of work going into it. But, you know, Ernest used to Even talk about how it was you. Every generation has had something where it was YouTube at one point, where, oh, my gosh, these new artists these days are throwing their videos up on YouTube and they're getting found, right? And then it was Facebook, and then it was Instagram, and then it was Vine. Yeah, yeah, we all forget about vine, even. And then it's TikTok, you know, I would say is the hottest tool right now that people get found on. And it's crazy where. Why would you not. If somebody told you there's a tool sitting there, some of it, you're like, man, this is cringy, or, hey, this is this. But would you not. If you were trying to go and chase that dream, would you not use that tool? [00:22:28] Speaker C: You just have to. [00:22:29] Speaker A: You have to. [00:22:30] Speaker C: I think you have to. And, like, it's funny for me because all my favorite artists that I came up on, like, you know, like Parker McCollum, Riley Greene, Eric Church, like Chris Stapleton, like, those are like my. My big inspirations, like, for what I want my artist career to be like. And like, my label tells me all the time, Sean, he's like, yeah, but, like, Tick Tock wasn't around when they were coming up. I was like, they never did any of this stuff. Like, yeah, they're gonna think it's crazy. He was like, yeah, but TikTok wasn't around. Like, that's like, this is what you have to do now. And I was like, yeah, you know, so I don't think it's cringe. I think it's like. I think it can be if you. If you are cringe, but in the. [00:23:03] Speaker A: Grand scheme of things, if you sat down with Eric Church, you're like, hey, I'm gonna make a video of me lip sync in front of a camera every single day, right? And I'm gonna do this over and over and over and over and over and over and over. I mean, at the end of the day, but they would all do it because they would. Because to get it out and we, We. We live in a world where you have to scroll, scroll, scroll past stuff. But it takes one time where this video, you've posted it a thousand times, maybe a hundred times, maybe one time. But it's that one time that it gets legs. [00:23:33] Speaker C: One thing that goes, and all of. [00:23:34] Speaker A: A sudden it just catches. [00:23:35] Speaker C: Or that one audio that goes, yeah, it's crazy. And then other people start making videos, and that's when you really get like. [00:23:39] Speaker A: Yeah, the viral stuff, every single one of them would do it. At the end of the show, every one of them would. [00:23:44] Speaker C: Everyone. Everyone would. I think some of some people have started. You know what I mean? In their own way. But I mean, they're also so. Like, every church is so established now. He doesn't have to get on Tick Tock. No, do that. You know, he doesn't have to do anything. But I'm always, like, hesitant about it. But then, like, I think it's like, people like Gavin, it's like I was on a whole tour. I saw what that could do. Like, he. He worked it so well, and it's like we never played a show that wasn't sold out, and we were playing big rooms, and it's like, you know, that's what he told me. He was like, post it till it's sold out. He was like, you know, don't. Don't be shy about it. Like, post as much as you can. Post every song as much as you can. You should. Yeah. I mean, it's just like, you see what it can do and it's like. [00:24:20] Speaker A: And look at now. Even when it gets cryptic. Look at this Morgan Wallen dropping. I mean, I was just. Yesterday, I was infatuated with that artwork that he posted of that car. [00:24:29] Speaker C: So sick. [00:24:29] Speaker A: So with all the songs as the stickers. But throughout the whole week, there's like, cryptic messages. People love that. [00:24:36] Speaker C: So sick. [00:24:37] Speaker A: And it gets. I mean, when Tate McCrae posted the shirt, everybody's losing their mind over Tate McCray. I'm like, these people, I mean, I don't know if they just think about. But it's so awesome that once you have the tool at your fingertips and you can just post a little song out there, get a little snippet, it goes viral. People thinking, what's Vincent coming out with next? [00:24:55] Speaker C: It's awesome. I think, like, you know, some people get frustrated with it or whatever, and like, I'm honestly in that camp sometimes. But it's like, you get one thing to go the right way. It's like the most exciting time to put out music, I think. You know, you never know. [00:25:07] Speaker B: So we talked a lot about Gavin, and you kind of opened up for Gavin going on tour with him. And. And tonight Cole Goodwin is. Is opening up for you. How's that relationship started? Or how did you get in with him? And then, you know, what. What do you do from a leader standpoint at that point to kind of take him under your wing? [00:25:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean, Cole, he writes with couple of my buddy Jack Hummel and Jack Roton, who was Tm in for Gavin for a while, but it's kind of how I heard about him. And then my day to day, Kyle was telling me to check him out. And then I think he's just. He's dope. We got to hang a little bit, and I think his music's dope. He's like, I mean, you'll see him tonight. Like, he rips on guitar and he was out there with Zach Top, which was pretty sick. And yeah, I become a fan. I'm kind of a newer fan of his and he's a friend of mine. He's just a good vibe. But, I mean, I don't know if I can really take him under my wing yet. I feel like I'm figuring it out. I feel like we're just out here kind of together. But. [00:26:02] Speaker A: But I felt that's how I felt that's how Gavin was. It wasn't like Gavin was established at. [00:26:07] Speaker C: That point for sure. [00:26:08] Speaker A: Taking you under. Like, I felt like his very quick. [00:26:11] Speaker C: Climb figuring it out together. So, yeah, I mean, I feel like a lot of the people opening, like, Cole and Zach, John King was on the first leg. Clayton Mullen, Blake Whitten's gonna be out with us. Carson Wallace. Like, I just feel like we're all kind of playing shows together. Like, I'm. I'm only played like 11 headline shows in my life so far, so it's like still getting used to being the headliner. Like, I feel like it's weird that people are like, opening for me. You know what I mean? [00:26:35] Speaker B: Carson was here. I don't know. I can't remember who he opened for, but he was here. I loved him. Yeah, I follow him and everything. I can't remember who he. [00:26:45] Speaker A: No, that was Schuster. Wasn't that. Was that Schuster? [00:26:49] Speaker B: It could have been. It could have been. [00:26:50] Speaker C: Yeah. He. [00:26:52] Speaker B: He was. He killed it. I loved him. [00:26:54] Speaker A: What was. What was something on Gavin's tour as far as the. Was there any pranks that you got he did on you or was there any. [00:27:02] Speaker C: There wasn't. There wasn't any pranks throughout the thing. It was. It was pretty chill. And then the last day, I guess they pranked us pretty good. I mean, it was the most of the day. They were asking us. We were in Pittsburgh. I remember it was the last show and we were kind of like, you know, they're not gonna not do a prank. Like, we're like, trying to figure out what they're gonna do. And then Gavin's TM Lawson was kind of asking us the whole Day. Like, he was like, anybody on your crew, like, allergic to peanut butter? And, like, we didn't think anything of it. This was that, like, sound check. And he's just going around. We're, like, not really thinking anything of it. Like, he did a good job of, like, playing it low key. And he was like, anybody got, like, a peanut allergy? And we were like, no. And, like, he went around to everybody, and he was like, okay. And then he, like. He was like. He asked me again one more time. He's like, so you sure? I'm like, yeah. No one's allergic to peanut butter. And he got down on his phone and started texting real quick and, like, walked off. And we were like, oh. We're like, that's gonna be the prank. Like, peanut butter. And then the whole day, like, they're kind of, like, walking by us, like, playing YouTube videos, like, how to get peanut butter out of clothes. Like, like, all this kind of stuff. And then they're like. They're, like, faking radio calls. They're like, get, like, one more jar. One more jar. And we're just walking around. We're like, like, surely they're not just going to, like, huck peanut butter at us while we're on stage. Like, we're trying to figure out what they're going to do. And then Gavin walks by, like, the whole day. This kind of, like, mental warfare is going on. Then Gavin walks by kind of closer to the show, and he has this brown paper bag, and he just kind of starts shaking it at me in the green room, and then he walks off. I'm like, okay. And then JLip, their content guy, comes over, and he's like, hey, like, Gavin wants to make a tick tock with you real quick before you go out there. And I was like, okay. So I'm real nervous at this point because I've got the peanut butter going through my. Got the brown paper bag, and I walk into this, like, big conference room. We're playing, like, another big venue that day, so they had a lot of, like, big bonus rooms. Yeah, there's a big, like, conference room. And I walk out there, and Gavin's got his feet propped up with sunglasses on, and he's like, lean way back, and he's like, vince. And he's like, get in here. And I was like, okay. And I'm. I'm waiting for their whole band and crew. In my mind, they're all gonna pop up from under the table and just start, like, hugging me with peanut butter, you know? And Then, like, I was just. I was so nervous. Like, if you watch the video, I'm so on edge. Like, his whole band of crew, I'm expecting them to just pop up and, you know, just start going. And then Gavin's like, we've really loved having you out here, man. Like, me too. And he's like, you just open up this bag. And then the next thing going through my mind, I thought there was like, like dog in the bag or something. You know, like something crazy and blow. We poured out and it's. It's five grand in cash, but there's not like a bill over, like ten. Like a ten dollar bill. So it's like five grand in, like ones and fives and tens. And that was the prank. And then he was like, yeah. [00:29:45] Speaker A: Didn't he throw it or something? [00:29:46] Speaker C: Yeah, he like threw it up in the air. And then he's like, that was kind of like the prank for the day. He was like, we were just messing with you with peanut butter. And it's like, okay. And then I get on stage and we're finishing our last. Our last song. And like, I'm doing. How's it answer? I'm going up to the mic to do the last chorus. That was a dance for. And I just like, just get clocked from the side, like, I don't even know what it is. And like, he like, they like pied us with like whipped cream and all this kind of stuff. And it was good. Yeah, but that was that. He got our guard down. He had us. He had his high, got our guard down, and then got us one more. [00:30:14] Speaker A: Time eating a peanut butter sandwich. [00:30:16] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was just mental warfare the whole day. So that was the. That was the end of 20. [00:30:20] Speaker A: I think I saw Colby Cooper's where co. They like released either crickets or something throughout their hole. Or it might have been packing peanuts. I. It was. No, actually it was crickets packing peanuts and all sorts of dumb inside their bus. [00:30:35] Speaker C: Yeah, that's crazy. [00:30:37] Speaker A: Yeah, that's crazy. [00:30:39] Speaker C: None of that. [00:30:39] Speaker B: Wow. [00:30:40] Speaker C: None of that. No. [00:30:41] Speaker A: So I didn't know. [00:30:42] Speaker C: We just got the Mental Warfare. No Crickets on. [00:30:47] Speaker A: Back to your. On the Music note. [00:30:49] Speaker C: Yes. [00:30:50] Speaker A: I kind of asked a question to everybody. And someday when you get to this point where you've got that Vincent Mason private jet, I'm assuming you'll just fly around with every single album known to man. But as planes do, as we know right now, in current news, you know, things have problems. You. You gotta bail, but you can grab five albums for the rest of your life. [00:31:13] Speaker C: Oh, that's a good question. [00:31:14] Speaker A: And on a deserted island. What five are you taking? [00:31:18] Speaker C: It's a good question. Shoot. Can I pull out my phone? [00:31:23] Speaker A: Absolutely. [00:31:24] Speaker C: A little reference. Yeah, I think I gotta go. A lot of people like Limestone Kid as Parker's best album, but I think probably wrong is my favorite. So I'm grab. I'm gonna grab probably Wrong. That's answer number one. Let's see. Better get a John Mayer album. [00:31:41] Speaker A: You'll never listen to anything else. [00:31:44] Speaker C: I'm taking Born and raised John Mayer. Traveler. Traveler. Chris Stapleton. So that's three. I gotta pick one. Probably Eric Church. Oh, it's gonna be tough. I guess I gotta take chief Eric Church. And then for the bangers. For the bangers and the bops that I need for the rest of my life, I'm bring Dangerous. [00:32:09] Speaker A: Okay. [00:32:09] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:32:10] Speaker A: All right. [00:32:10] Speaker C: I think that's pretty. I think that's. That's pretty wide ranging of the stuff that I dig. I think that would keep me content. [00:32:17] Speaker A: I think as you go on with your journey, I think it's interesting to think about that of what album staying with you forever. Because there's ones that you're burning up right now for sure. But then there's like, dude, it'll never get old. [00:32:29] Speaker C: For sure. [00:32:29] Speaker A: It'll never get old. And like my John Mayer album that is always in my top five is live in Los Angeles where the light is. [00:32:37] Speaker C: That's a good answer. [00:32:38] Speaker A: Such a great album. It's the only one that has in your atmosphere. One of his best songs. [00:32:42] Speaker C: I talk about that a lot with other like John Mayer fans. It's like, what could they have done? Like, there's no studio version because like, what are they gonna due to it that would be better than that one? [00:32:51] Speaker A: I like. [00:32:52] Speaker C: He just. [00:32:52] Speaker A: What my test did for me is show how much I love live albums. Four out of my five are live albums. [00:32:58] Speaker C: That's cool because what's yours mine go. [00:33:02] Speaker A: Through and actually I put mine on Spotify on a playlist I've shared of. Because I listen to a lot of really, really hard rock. [00:33:09] Speaker C: Okay. [00:33:09] Speaker A: A lot of screamo type stuff. Motionless and white, Atrey you, Benjamin, Breaking Benjamin, something like that. But you know, one of mine is taking back Sunday live and actually in Los Angeles as well. I love John Mayer's Live in your atmosphere. I love Counting Crows live in New Amsterdam. [00:33:32] Speaker C: Yep. [00:33:32] Speaker A: It's got somewhere in Spain on there. It's a great song. And then Oasis live at Wembley. [00:33:37] Speaker C: Hell yeah. [00:33:38] Speaker A: And then Ikea I go back and forth, but Morgan Wallen's double album is in a spot. But then again in my six and my seventh and my eighth are just always depending on how I feel. [00:33:52] Speaker C: Right. [00:33:52] Speaker A: Creep into that top. Top five. [00:33:54] Speaker C: Right, right. [00:33:55] Speaker A: And it's so hard to make that decision of five only. And you have. You'll never see those other ones ever again. [00:34:00] Speaker C: Yeah. That is kind of a good way to tell, though, like, what kind of artists you want to be or. [00:34:04] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:34:04] Speaker C: You know, I guess what kind of like, even, like, just like your core is as a music fan, and there's. [00:34:08] Speaker A: Somebody out there right now that they're going through their freshman year, high school. They're a marriage, a divorce. So whatever chapter of their life is, there's somebody out there that 10 years from now is gonna be like, that album in my life of my high school year was Vincent Mason. [00:34:25] Speaker C: I know. [00:34:25] Speaker A: Isn't that crazy to think about? That's wild because I think about, like, my freshman year, I can tell you an album I listened to in the winter of my freshman, freshman year. [00:34:33] Speaker C: Insane. [00:34:34] Speaker A: And yet, like, that could be a Vincent Mason album. [00:34:37] Speaker C: Yeah, I think about, like, yeah, Parker McConnell is one of my favorites. And it's like, I think about. He was two albums in, I think, like, releasing the first song off the third before I even found them, and I'm like a top, you know, 001 Spotify listener. It's like, I didn't even find him those two albums in. So it's like, it's wild to think, like, the. The kids that might be out there right now that won't even find the stuff I'm putting out Till, you know, 10 years later, you know, whatever. [00:35:00] Speaker A: Correct. [00:35:01] Speaker C: Crazy. [00:35:02] Speaker A: It is nuts. [00:35:03] Speaker B: So my last question, I'm just gonna throw. Throw it out there. It's different than what I've ever asked. So what is the typical Vincent Mason fan in the crowd? Male, female? What are they wearing? What do they look like? [00:35:18] Speaker A: Age? [00:35:19] Speaker B: Anything? [00:35:20] Speaker C: I think it's been. It's been widely, like, on Spotify. Like, I know, like, we kind of have a little bit of a higher percentage in 26 to 32. So those are people listening. [00:35:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:33] Speaker C: I would say from. Based on what I could tell, it seems like just kind of your typical. Typical country show. 18 to probably 32 in the crowd, I would say. [00:35:40] Speaker B: Okay. [00:35:41] Speaker C: You know, wide ranging, depending on if you're in a college town, it's, you know, younger, but yeah, you pull. [00:35:47] Speaker B: Pulling higher percentage females, I think. [00:35:50] Speaker C: So on Spotify, though, it's kind of funny. Like we. It like the. It's 51, 49, I think male. So like male kind of edges it. But I think like probably like social media and ticket wise is probably more like 60, 40 or 65, you know. [00:36:04] Speaker B: So 35 on YouTube. And it's kind of. Kind of concerning on YouTube. Austin and I pull more like middle aged males. [00:36:12] Speaker C: Okay. [00:36:13] Speaker B: For the podcast, which. [00:36:15] Speaker A: We're good looking guys. Yeah. [00:36:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:36:18] Speaker A: People that might be loving us or it's all of our friends. All of our friends. [00:36:24] Speaker B: Yeah. That's what it is. Our five friends. [00:36:27] Speaker A: What's. What's a meal on the road that you like to eat? Are you on a strict diet, guy? Are you a fat man? [00:36:32] Speaker C: I need to be. I was. I actually was like coming off the road last year and then getting ready to come back out here, like January, February, I was pretty good when I was at home. I was pretty strict and I lost some weight. But out here it's kind of like. [00:36:45] Speaker A: Putting on that tour. Wait. [00:36:46] Speaker C: Yeah, it's kind of like whatever goes. But I mean, I feel like we just switched to the bus, so that'll be good. So maybe I'll start like catering some stuff. I thought about that. Like getting catering trays from like, you know, like Mediterranean places or whatever. Like Chipotle. Maybe, like have a bunch of chicken and rice on the bus. That might be the move. But I kind of just hate whatever's. Whatever's out there most of the time. We're eating at the venue a lot or like kind of. [00:37:10] Speaker A: Did you guys eat today? [00:37:10] Speaker C: Right here. I just had a buffalo chicken quesadilla. [00:37:12] Speaker A: Nice. [00:37:13] Speaker C: So I was a little late walking in here. [00:37:14] Speaker A: Oh, it's all good. [00:37:16] Speaker C: What you think I'm gonna get another one? Probably for post show. Maybe two. [00:37:19] Speaker B: There you go. [00:37:20] Speaker C: I always get like, the food is. [00:37:21] Speaker A: I would say quesadilla with southwest sauce. Okay. [00:37:24] Speaker C: I might have to do that too. [00:37:25] Speaker A: Then we have ducks next door. Buffalo shrimp. [00:37:30] Speaker C: Hell yeah. [00:37:30] Speaker A: Very good. And you can do it in a quesadilla, too. Grilled or crispy. [00:37:34] Speaker C: Might have to do that for the post show. Yeah, Food's fire. The whole band's eating right now. [00:37:40] Speaker A: Right. [00:37:40] Speaker C: Everyone's got good stuff to say. So that's kind of. It's just like whatever. I had a lot of. Try to eat a lot of quesadillas. Burgers, you know, something that's not like over the top. [00:37:49] Speaker A: There's the bacon aioli burger over at Ducks, which is pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. And if you guys want pizza or something after or anything like that, Just let us know. [00:37:58] Speaker C: I'm sure we will. [00:37:59] Speaker A: So. Well, dude, we appreciate you doing this. [00:38:02] Speaker C: Appreciate you having me, man. [00:38:07] Speaker B: Thursday night, June 12, tailgate and tall Boys. Bloomington. [00:38:10] Speaker C: Hell, yeah. [00:38:10] Speaker B: It's gonna be a hell of a night. [00:38:12] Speaker C: Absolutely no beer. [00:38:14] Speaker B: Hell of a kickoff to. [00:38:15] Speaker A: Yeah. When we do the festival. We do the festival. We'll have to. We'll have to do a shot or something to get a little bit more rowdy, but, yeah, gloves are off. [00:38:26] Speaker B: West Peoria Cruisins, Farmington Road. Vincent Mason, thank you for joining us. [00:38:31] Speaker C: Thanks for having me. [00:38:32] Speaker B: Sitting down with us on tailgate, Beers. [00:38:34] Speaker C: Hell, yeah, man.